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  1. Of the 169 possible starting hands in Texas Hold 'Em poker, this one ranks 165th. That's not something to crow about. Face it, you're having a bad day when you see any of these five hands. Poker is a fun game but playing this hand is just asking for a headache.
  2. Bad Cards in Poker. Short-term variance can ruin even the best of players Learn how to keep your composure, even in the longest of losing streaks Avoid going on tilt and ride for the bad patch as smoothly as you can In theory, we all know it has to happen sometimes; bad cards in poker.
  3. Poker Bros software has been developed by Beyond Games Limited and their RNG has a Gaming Labs Certificate of Integrity, which is a really good sign for people looking to play on a real money poker app: The games are fair with a proper Random Number Generator, so everyone will get equal share of good and bad cards in the long-run.

They have a bad run, where their opponents keep picking up hands. For whatever reason, you’ll see a lot of good aggressive players start flatting with everything but Queens, Kings, and Aces when they’re having a momentarily bad run. This just exacerbates and prolongs the run bad. The club of poker players who have experienced a bad run of cards. But the club you really want to be a part of is the club of players that have run bad AND survived to play another day. Running bad can take many forms.


One of the tougher things that we will have to go through as poker players is dealing with a downswing that lasts. In many cases, the issue is not just about the money we lose. It’s about the loss of future profitability at the tables. It’s about the loss of all the money we could have made, if we were still a winning player.
A huge dark cloud can begin to appear over our future. Are we really still a winning player or are we just deceiving ourselves? Has poker finally got to the stage where it’s a rake trap and essentially unbeatable? What will we do if it turns out that we can no longer make money at the tables?

Self Propogating


An important concept to understand is the idea that downswings are “self propagating”. This is the same as saying that they can have a “downward spiral effect”.
The idea is that assuming we are initially winning players, we are playing a good game, and our downswing is caused purely by variance. That causes us to maybe get a little tilted, or a little doubtful about our abilities. The negative impact on our mindset causes us to play slightly worse than usual. The swing continues as a result. Perhaps we would have even been out of the swing by now, but since we allowed it to affect our mindset, it is turning into a much bigger swing than it needed to be. We may reach the stage where we are logging on to our poker client expecting to lose.
While it’s important to acknowledge that our state of mind cannot have any bearing on the cards we are dealt, thinking that we will lose can cause it to become a reality. We might face a decision where folding is correct but we decide to shove thinking “It doesn’t really matter what I do. I’m destined to lose anyway, so what value is there in thinking deeply about the correct decision?”

Downswings are Useful

Out of all of the terms we might use to describe a downswing, useful is probably the last thing that comes to mind. It is important as poker players to develop a relationship with failure that is healthy and allows us to grow. The truth is that many players will forget to work on their game when they are running good. It’s common to stop questioning why we make certain plays and whether they have the highest expectation. Losing a decent chunk of money can present us with a unique opportunity to grow. Rather than allow a downswing to result in negative emotions, it should spur us to work even harder on our game. By the time we navigate our way out of the swing we’ll be a much better player for it.
The most successful companies in today’s world are in part successful because they understand the importance of this. A commonly cited quote by businessman Thomas J. Watson, chairman and CEO of IBM -
Would you like me to give you a formula for success? Its quite simple, really. Double your rate of failure. You’re thinking of failure as the enemy of success. But it isn’t at all….you can be discouraged by failure, or you can learn from it. So go ahead and make mistakes. Make all you can. Because, remember that’s where you’ll find success. On the far side.

Causes of a Downswing


We mustn’t assume for a minute that all downswings are caused by a failure in our application of poker strategy at the tables. An important idea when facing a downswing is to break down our losses into three categories.
  1. Variance
  2. Bad Play
  3. Bad Mindset
It makes sense to try and assign a probability to each of these factors. For example “I think my swing was cause 60% by variance, 30% by mindset, and 10% by strategic adjustments that I need to make in general.
1. Variance – Assuming we are playing well and have a great mindset, then there is nothing that we can do about negative variance. Rather than attempting to control the variance which is somewhat impossible, our approach should be to make peace with the fact that poker is a game that entails huge variance.
Most of the reasons why players struggle to cope with downswings is a result of unrealistic expectations about the game. If we’ve ever played around with a variance simulator we’ll know that the potential swings we might go on even as a winning player are huge. So when that swing happens, we should typically accept it as part of the game. Most players underestimate variance and will assume that they are cursed, or the site is rigged, or that they must be doing something terribly wrong.
If we are expecting swings as large as 20bi then we won’t necessarily be as disturbed when it finally happens. Education is the key to helping us regulate our mental state. When we find ourselves in a swing caused primarily by variance we have no choice but to ride it out, maybe even moving down stakes if our bankroll dictates.
There are other pieces of logic we must keep in mind to help us retain our sanity. For example, we should know that one of the primary reasons why poker is a profitable endeavor is because of the variance. There is not a good chance that recreational players would keep hitting the tables to donate their money if they didn’t occasionally go on lucky streaks where they win!
2. Bad PlayThe truth is that many downswings involve some level of bad play. It’s not always the case, but as we mentioned earlier, running bad can have a downward spiral effect. So even if we are making good plays initially, the pressure our downswing exerts on us may cause us to make some questionable plays. Downswings themselves are unavoidable, but sometimes not prolonging our downswing as a result of bad play is something that we actually have control over.
In this case, we are not talking about mental issues as such, but specific strategic errors. We need to retrace our recent database looking for problems in our strategic thinking. It may be that we are swinging down because a certain situation where we make a bad play has been cropping up more frequently than usual and hence having a larger impact on our overall results than it does normally.
The best thing we can do in any downswing situation is to assume that it is a result of our bad play and not a result of variance until proven otherwise.
It’s true that many swings are caused primarily by variance but we want to be careful of using variance as an excuse. There are some players out there who are consistent losing players, but rather than make the needed strategic adjustments to their game, they blame variance and assume things will take a turn for the better in the future.
If we are struggling to isolate specific strategic areas in our game then it might be a good idea to enlist some outside help. Strategy videos,poker books,forum posts, and hiring a coach are all decent suggestions.
3. Mindset – While mindset usually does not cause downswings initially, it’s the number 1 culprit in extending our downswing across a way longer period than it needs to be.
Like the strategic side of things, our mental state needs to be monitored and trained over a significant period of time. Rather than blaming our downswing on bad mindset, we should attempt to isolate the specific problems with our mindset that are prolonging our swing.
To give an example, perhaps losing to recreational players make us feel angry. It’s important to remind ourselves that -
  • The recreational players must suck out some of the time, it’s mathematically certain. Also if they did not win occasionally, there would be no weaker players left for us to profit from.
Or perhaps we get concerned that we might no longer be a winning player, and this affects the strategic aspects of our decision making. It’s important to remind ourselves that -
  • Poker is a game of uncertainty. Rather than striving for certainty we must accept that there will always be some unknown variables. All we can do as poker players is work hard on our game and increase the probability that we are winning players in the long term.
It's also important to identify specific features of our strategic game that disappears when our mindset becomes bad. For example perhaps we notice some of the following subtle changes occurring -
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  • We become more tight and passive than usual
  • We become more aggressive than usual
  • We play longer sessions than usual in an attempt to make money back
  • We start to make specific strategic errors such as 3betting in the wrong spots
  • Freezing in certain spots rather than being able to think rationally (common)
Understanding exactly how our mindset affects our strategic decisions can help us to identify much sooner when we are suffering from a poor mindset. We can then make the relevant adjustments before our downswing becomes bigger.

Accumulated Tilt


Accumulated tilt is a very common problem we might experience when suffering a large downswing. When most players sit down at a table of poker they are starting at break-even. Sometimes when a player has been swinging down for a while they lose that feeling of being break. Instead of starting at zero they have the pressure of all of their previous losses weighing on their mind. They feel as if they are actually starting each game down 20 buyins.
Even if we manage to sit down at the table initially with a good mindset, the build up of losses can make our mindset a lot more brittle. Perhaps in the past we would have been able to take several bad beats and shrug it off, but now even one bad-beat can send our mindset spiralling out of control. Here we go again, this is how it starts. Every time….I’ll probably lose another 10 buyins now.
In order to break out of this vicious cycle we need to reset our consciousness so that we are starting with a fresh slate and from break even. We should be able to do this in many cases by simply regulating our mental state. Ideally we tell ourselves the following…
The money that I have lost is gone. My current bankroll is what it is now….there is no use thinking of what it might have been if I had run good. Nothing that has happened before really matters now and I need to start today afresh, as if I’m starting my poker career from scratch
This is how it should work in theory, but it may be that we have not currently trained our mindset well enough to make simple adjustments in our psyche by simply reminding ourselves of logical statements. If this is the case there are a couple of useful tricks we can use to deceive our brain into thinking the above.
  1. Deposit and play on a new room with a new bankroll (even if it’s a smaller roll)
  2. Take a break from poker
It's amazing how a few days off can really change our mental outlook. Playing on a new room can also convince our brain tentatively that “things might be different now”.
Ideally we shouldn’t need to do either of the above, it depends completely on how far our mindset has progressed. If we have never given our mindset any proper training then these literally might be the only options, but we should strive to create a stronger mindset for the future so that dealing with a downswing becomes easier.

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Do you get frustrated playing poker tournaments? You play all the time and it seems like you never cash. And even when you do, you cash the minimum. Every once in a while you get teased with a deep run only to run Kings into Aces – resulting in another broken mouse.

Well as you gain experience, you learn that in order to be successful as a poker player you need to get comfortable with running bad. This is even more prevalent if you are a poker tournament specialist. But no matter how experienced you are, these bad runs can test you and make you question your skill level. This is especially true if you are an amateur poker player who only plays a handful of tournaments a week. You can actually go months without cashing and this duration of time in between cashes can skew your view of reality and affect your play.

Now if you read enough poker forums and websites you will hear about all the online tournament pros who are regularly taking down five and six-figure cashes. They paint this picture of guys constantly making final tables and raking in mounds of cash. You may even be a bit jealous and wonder, “what do those guys have that I don’t?” Well, I’m hoping this article will help answer that question and provide some much needed perspective on the topics of volume and variance.

Amateur Poker Players vs. Pros

Amateurs – For the purpose of this article, an amateur player is someone who plays about 1-3 times per week, usually at night. They have a “real job” and may have a family or are in college full time, so they can only put in part-time hours. But make no mistake, this player is serious about the game and spends time on poker forums, watching training videos, etc. Since we’re talking about tournament poker, the amateur in this article plays mostly large field no-limit hold’em tournaments. They may be a winning player, break even or maybe a slight loser in the game thus far in their career.

Pros – A professional is someone who plays online poker for their sole source of income. For this article, we are using those who specialize in large field online poker tournaments.

The Stats

Before reading too deep into these numbers, keep in mind that the purpose of this article is to provide perspective into your own results by comparing them to the results of other players. It is not meant to be a scientific study.

The numbers below represent an average of 10 players from each category and use results from both Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars from 2010. The pro stats were taken from 1/1/10 until 8/22/10 and the amateur stats were taken from 1/1/10 until 9/20/10. They only include tournaments with over 180 players.

Pros*Amateurs*
# Played3557661.5
Avg Played/Day**21.53.58
In the Money13.10%15.7%
Final Tables3.13%2%
Top 31.36%0.54%
Top 3 when at Final Table43.61%28.09%
Wins0.73%0.22%
ROI77.65%19.68%
Longest Non-Cash Streak4722.5

* Pro stats were taken from a ranking of the top 10 online tournament players. Amateur stats were taken from a sample of 10 amateur players who volunteered their screen name for use in this study.

**Avg. Played/Day is based on a 5 day week, but also only includes playing 2 sites. Actual volume per day may be larger for those who play more than 2 sites and less than 5 days a week.

What Do These Stats Mean?

As you can see, the pros are not these mythical beasts who cash all the time and final table every tournament. Media attention can sometimes give off a false reality as it only highlights their wins and never mentions how many losses it took to get there.

The realities are:

  • Even the top pros only win tournaments less than 1% of the time. For some it was as low as 0.60%. So this means they are winning only 1 out of every 100 times. Of course variance doesn’t always come on schedule and they can go 200-300 tournaments without a win.
  • Top pros only final table around 3% of the time. Some are as low as 2%.
  • Top pros are only cashing about 13% of the time. This means they lose money 87% of the time they play! In fact, amateurs cash more often than pros. The difference is that when pros do cash, they cash deep more often.
  • Pros have massive downswings like everyone else. In fact, becasue of the volume they play, they have had longer non-cash streaks.

Why have the pros averaged a $400,000 profit this year before September? It is in their ability to close tournaments. There is a reason why their ROI is 58% higher. Let’s look at the stats:

  • Pros make 1/3 more final tables than amateur poker players.
  • At a 9 person final table, the average of hitting top 3 should be 33%. Pros are hitting this 43.61% of the time.
  • Of the times they cash, pros are final tabling almost twice as often as amateurs (23.9% compared to 12.8%).
  • Pros finish in the top 3 almost 3x as often as amateurs.
  • Volume, volume, volume. Let’s not forget that pros play all day, every day. This is their job. They have a distinct advantage of overcoming bad variance much quicker and also seeing “the long run” of making profitable decisions quicker.

Keep in mind that the group of amateurs used were volunteers from various poker forums. While not all were winning players, the fact that they study the game says they likely have better results than an average amateur. Also, because of their volume size an individual amateur’s skills may be better or worse than their results show.

Improving Your Game

How can you use these stats to improve your game?

Add More Tables

Get outside of your 1-3 tabling comfort zone and simply add a couple more tables. I know the argument is that it’s harder to make reads, but the volume you put in will make up for that. In addition, this extra volume means you are playing more hands and will result in improving your game even faster. This extra experience will more than make up for the short-term loss of a perfect read.

Play More Days

Just try to add 1 more day per week. Don’t be lazy. If you currently play 7 tournaments a day, adding 1 more day x 52 weeks = 364 more tournaments/year. Even at the amateur ROI average above of 20% and average buy-in of $30, that means an extra $2,184 in profit.

Stop Caring About Individual Tournaments

It’s easy to expend emotional energy in any single poker tournament. You’re trying to win of course. But the odds are that you’re not going to. In fact, you’re only going to cash about 15% of the time. All you can do is focus on making good decisions and the variance will work itself out in the end.

Play for the Win

There’s a reason why amateurs cash more than pros. They care more about it and tighten up near the bubble. But you will miss out on valuable opportunities to accumulate chips if you are playing just to cash. In addition, you can’t fear busting or making a mistake when you get deep. In order to make real money playing poker tournaments, you have to trust your instincts and play to win.

If you’ve ever grown frustrated playing poker tournaments, don’t sweat it. Keep in perspective that even the best players in the world don’t win that often. The only way to balance out negative variance is to put in enough volume where your skill can prevail.

Good luck at the tables.

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By Donovan Panone

Donovan started playing poker in 2004 and is an experienced tournament and cash game player who has a passion for teaching and helping others improve their game.

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  1. Great, revealing article. Stats like these are very encouraging. Thanks, Donovan

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